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Featuring the politics in Telz - Telshe Yeshiva Cleveland, Chicago, Riverdale, MontrealUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger46125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6361665806978266714.post-65802134170805536302013-11-22T13:30:00.000-05:002013-11-23T22:24:55.269-05:00Los Angeles Shabbos of Chizuk "Rabbi Shlomo Eisenberger refuses to go to LA"<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">
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We have been told that due to the current situation in regards with Tzvi Belsky and the administration, Rabbi Shlomo Eisenberger has refused to go to LA for the shabbos!</div>
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Have no fear Rabbi Yechezkel Munk was not left alone Rabbi Dovid Goldberg said he would go along for the free flight.</div>
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<span style="font-size: 13.5pt;">It’s with great sadness that wish Harav Shlomo Eisenberger a safe
trip to Lakewood NJ this coming Pasach.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 13.5pt;">Rabbi Eisenberger is quoted as saying the following <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 13.5pt;">"Due to the lack of leadership in the Yeshiva regarding the affairs
of Tzvi Belsky, I have decided that I cannot stay is such an institution". He went
on to say "Even Norman Lam resigned from YU and I should stay here and be part
of this great dishonor to G-D"! </span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 13.5pt;">The great Rosh Yeshivas of past generations fought
against this very thing and this person should be running the yeshiva?<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 13.5pt;">He has since called upon Rabbi Yosef Davis
to resign as well, stating someone that has a relationship with your ex son
in-law does not belong representing you.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
<br />Unknownnoreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6361665806978266714.post-86523699502763811942013-11-12T15:49:00.000-05:002013-11-17T15:49:40.206-05:00Telshe Today<span style="font-size: 13.5pt;">What does a Yeshiva do when one
of their staff is caught downloading porn, chatting online, meeting other women
and then finally getting divorced ? After years of being rattled by fighting
for the leadership of the Yeshiva, it finally was somewhat worked out and
things seemed as they were getting quiet. Now the Telshe Yeshiva of Wickliffe
Ohio is once again being thrown into turmoil but this time with a sex scandal.
Rabbi Tzvi Belsky (son of Rabbi Yisroel Belsky of the OU) and married to the
granddaughter of the late Rosh Yeshiva Rabbi Chaim Stein was hired as the
executive director of the Yeshiva. With the urging of his uncle Rabbi Moshe
Ruven Barkin, Belsky was ushered in as the savior for the withering Telshe
Yeshiva. A promising future was the slogan of this new administration. In the
beginning things looked good as they did a lot of PR and put the Yeshiva back
on the minds of people. A dinner in the memory of Reb Chaim Stein was held with
the attendance of about 600 people, much more than the Yeshiva ever had before.
From there things didn't continue as planned. As the promising future was not
materializing people once again were keeping their money from the Yeshiva, and
the Yeshiva suddenly began falling behind in checks. One check a month the
Yeshiva is always able to give thanks to the generosity of the Klein family who
promised the late Rosh Yeshiva Rabbi Stein that they would do that. In the last
six months that is the only check the faculty has been receiving. <o:p></o:p></span><br />
<span style="font-size: 13.5pt;">Last summer many of us heard that
Tzvi Belsky the fundraiser/executive director of the Yeshiva was having marital
problems. At that time he was also teaching in the Yeshiva Camp Kol Torah as he
did for the last few years. The problems at that time were involving porn
addiction, sex chatting, strip clubs, and he was sent to therapy. If anything
went on between Belsky and boys in Camp Kol Torah isn't known yet, but we do
know that they refused to rehire him this year. Do they have more information
that we don't have as of now?? Well Belsky went to N.Y. for therapy and at the
same time was able to enjoy his freedom of traveling to visit his online
friends and the N.Y./N.J. strip clubs. Finally, he was busted in those places,
online girls were chatting him on public computers and porn movies were found
hidden on his computer. His wife realizing that she was married to a pervert
that even therapy couldn't help went for divorce. As the stories of all
Belsky's action began spreading more people suddenly had what to add, never
davening, Chillul Shabbos, prostitutes and much more. Belsky, realizing he was
in trouble began trying to win over the faculty of the Yeshiva. Being behind in
checks, which in essence means not doing a good fundraising job he immediately
contacted his brother in law Shlomo Yehuda Rechnitz to give the Yeshiva 50k so
he can give a check and then hopefully everyone will look away from all his
other actions. When he gave out the check and that still didn't happen he began
threatening the Yeshiva that the land adjacent to the Yeshiva that is owned by
his brother in law will be used against the interests of the Yeshiva. Getting
another 50k for a second check and hopefully with that threat he is hoping his
job will be secured.<o:p></o:p></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 13.5pt;"> What will the faculty of
Telshe Yeshiva do now? Will they sell themselves out to this pervert, spouse
cheating, porn addict etc. and let him stay as the name and face of their
Yeshiva or will they do the correct thing and have him replaced with a more
qualified individual that will not be a disgrace for a upstanding Orthodox
Yeshiva ? Time and public opinion will be the deciding factor.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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With great gratitude we would like to thank Rabbi Yosef
Davis for undertaking the monumental task of Co-Chairman of Telshe Yeshiva</div>
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It’s truly unbelievable to see how much time and effort he
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One of his great accomplishments is the time he has taken
from his extremely busy schedule to talk and explain to the Hanhallah about the
different strategies of fundraising and already we have seen the fruits of his labor.</div>
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Maran Harav Shlomo Eisenberger Shlita has been <i>moser
nefesh</i> by going to Florida this past week to collect desperately needed
funds and rumors have it that it was thanks to Rabbi Yosef Davis that he was extremely
successful.</div>
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Under the leadership of Rabbi Yosef Davis we wish the
yeshiva much hatzlacha and it should continue to grow as Maran Harav Chaim
Stein ztl said "back to the way it was".</div>
Unknownnoreply@blogger.com2tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6361665806978266714.post-1529659080695081632013-07-05T01:16:00.002-04:002013-11-17T15:37:18.469-05:00Executive Vice President at Telshe Rabbinical College?????<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">
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<span class="n fn" id="name"><span class="full-name"><span class="given-name">Zvi</span> <span class="family-name">Belsky</span></span></span></h1>
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Executive Vice President at Telshe Rabbinical College</div>
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Can someone please explain why this person still has this title?<br />
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Let me explain my question,<br />
Rabbi Chaim Stein z"l has a daughter that married Rabbi Menachem Levin who is the 11th grade rebbe in the high school<br />
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Zvi Belsky came to Telshe to learn and married the levin's daughter they purchased a house had a child... everything was great<br />
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We all know about the din torah...<br />
the Stein family got that Rabbi Steins Grandson in-law will be the Executive Vice President of the yeshiva and everything was great<br />
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Until....<br />
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Someone was caught using the internet for things that he should not be viewing..... and his wife and her family where not happy<br />
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this led to therapy.... and now its a divorce<br />
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so its all very simple<br />
How is it possible that this person can still have the title?<br />
Is this who we want to be running the yeshiva?<br />
yes the world we live in is crazy but we have a Torah <br />
every state is legalizing the things the Torah says is wrong do we let this go into the yeshivas also?<br />
is this what Rabbi Chaim Stein meant when he said the yeshiva will return to its glory?<br />
(or maybe all the story's they say about how many telzers can fit on a bed is true)Unknownnoreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6361665806978266714.post-81245709094191923582011-06-26T19:23:00.002-04:002011-06-26T23:28:15.688-04:00“Breaking News”<div class="MsoNormal">Reports are coming in from Eretz Yisroel that after the bais din came down to Wickliffe, Rabbi Levin has been making calls to people in Eretz Yisroel complaining that the Bais Din is a bias Bais Din for Gifter.</div><div class="MsoNormal"><br />
</div><div class="MsoNormal">As soon as more details are available we will post an update </div>Unknownnoreply@blogger.com8tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6361665806978266714.post-64241418098404076552011-06-24T11:35:00.002-04:002011-06-26T16:12:00.087-04:00From rischandioraysa@gmail.com<span style="color: red;">UPDATED </span><br />
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We would like to thank the readers for sending in updates from this past week in Wickliffe, for all of you that did not hear the update the bais din came down to Wickliffe (June 20 - 21) to talk to the rebbim in the yeshiva to get a real feel of what is going on. B"H they came out seeing all the sheker that the "New Hanhala" have been saying<br />
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Below are a few of the things that were sent in. If you have any updates please feel free to send it in so we can post it <br />
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1) When Eisenberg and Shapiro told the bais din that they have been paying the employes of the yeshiva on time, the bais din responded that some of the rebbim told them that they have not been paid in a while!!!<br />
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2) Even after Avrohom Chaim Levin came down to Wickliffe and spoke to the employes of the yeshiva and told them that they must talk bad to the bais din about gifter it seems that most of the rebbim told the bais din the facts the way it is and did not listen to levin (and Ausband) to lie to the bais din.<br />
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3) The newest story that Eisenberg (and the "New Hanhala") came up with was that Rav Gifter zt"l never wanted the yeshiva to go to his son. Gifters toan (lawyer) ask the bais din and eisenberg if true why did the hanhala sign a letter saying that gifter is the menahel of the yeshiva and go against what Rav Gifter zt"l wanted? eisenberg answered that that was a way of making gifter the fundraiser with a nice title. Gifters toan answered back if so why does it say on the next line of the letter that he is in charge of all ruchnius and gashmius (monetary and education) of the yeshiva!<br />
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4) We would like to thank moshe rasha Barkin for making a chilul hashem in the lobby of the hotel insisting that he have the zechus to bring the bais din back to the airport for no other reason other than to have the zechus and nothing to do with the fact that he was not able to control himself and was screaming at the bais din the day before that gifter is a horrible person<br />
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5) I heard from reliable source that The hanhalla called in 2 rabbaim after finding out that they told b"d that the hanhalla is destroying the yeshiva and told them be aware we know what u said !!!Unknownnoreply@blogger.com6tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6361665806978266714.post-78066228648393711932011-02-22T04:15:00.001-05:002011-02-23T13:20:40.388-05:00Dear Readers:<!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:WordDocument> <w:View>Normal</w:View> <w:Zoom>0</w:Zoom> <w:TrackMoves/> <w:TrackFormatting/> <w:PunctuationKerning/> <w:ValidateAgainstSchemas/> <w:SaveIfXMLInvalid>false</w:SaveIfXMLInvalid> <w:IgnoreMixedContent>false</w:IgnoreMixedContent> <w:AlwaysShowPlaceholderText>false</w:AlwaysShowPlaceholderText> <w:DoNotPromoteQF/> <w:LidThemeOther>EN-US</w:LidThemeOther> <w:LidThemeAsian>X-NONE</w:LidThemeAsian> <w:LidThemeComplexScript>HE</w:LidThemeComplexScript> <w:Compatibility> <w:BreakWrappedTables/> <w:SnapToGridInCell/> <w:WrapTextWithPunct/> <w:UseAsianBreakRules/> <w:DontGrowAutofit/> <w:SplitPgBreakAndParaMark/> <w:EnableOpenTypeKerning/> <w:DontFlipMirrorIndents/> <w:OverrideTableStyleHps/> </w:Compatibility> <w:BrowserLevel>MicrosoftInternetExplorer4</w:BrowserLevel> <m:mathPr> <m:mathFont m:val="Cambria Math"/> <m:brkBin m:val="before"/> <m:brkBinSub m:val="--"/> <m:smallFrac m:val="off"/> <m:dispDef/> <m:lMargin m:val="0"/> <m:rMargin m:val="0"/> <m:defJc m:val="centerGroup"/> <m:wrapIndent m:val="1440"/> <m:intLim m:val="subSup"/> <m:naryLim m:val="undOvr"/> </m:mathPr></w:WordDocument> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:LatentStyles DefLockedState="false" DefUnhideWhenUsed="true"
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<div class="MsoNormal">To the hundreds of readers that left their heart felt comments, we would like to share the following thought with you.</div><div class="MsoNormal"><br />
</div><div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: large;"><span style="color: #134f5c;">“The Chofetz Chaim wrote a <i>sefer</i> against lashon hara, but the same Chofetz Chaim was the biggest zealot in speaking out against the innovators of his time.”</span> <span style="font-size: x-large;"><span style="color: red;">These people are the innovators of this generation.</span></span></span></b></div>Unknownnoreply@blogger.com6tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6361665806978266714.post-48873954787013619572011-02-17T05:36:00.001-05:002011-02-20T09:48:47.530-05:00Telshe Yeshiva's 69th Annual Scholarship Dinner<div style="text-indent: 0.5in;">As some of you have received in an email from David Greenwald “<span style="color: black; font-size: 10pt;">Boruch Hashem, the Telshe Yeshiva's 69th Annual Scholarship Dinner was a huge success. In fact, this year was the most successful dinner in Telshe history!” “The evening was graced with the presence of Avrohom Chaim Levin, of Telshe Chicago and with the guest speaker, Avrohom Ausband, of Yeshiva of Telshe Alumni Riverdale.”</span></div> I would like to explain to the readers a little different view, a view from someone who was at the dinner and it was far from how the people of Telshe would like you to believe.<br />
Let me first ask you how a dinner can be successful, if before the guest speaker gets up to speak a huge part of the crowd leaves?<br />
As for what this guest speaker said:<br />
<div style="text-indent: 0.5in;"> All of us Telzers know that Rabbi Eliyahu Meir Bloch zt”l together with Rabbi Chaim Mordechai Katz zt”l (Reb Mottel) started Telshe Yeshiva Cleveland from scratch. So how can someone even think of saying that Telz Cleveland belongs to the Ausbands because their great grandfather was the one who started telz in Lithuania? I am very sorry to say the holocaust did happen and Telz Lita was all destroyed. But let us not get off track; please take a minute to understand what this so called guest speaker was trying to say.</div><div style="text-indent: 0.5in;">As all of you have heard there are big problems in Cleveland. Until now you had 2 sides, 1 side was Gifter that his father Rabbi Mordechai Gifter zt”l gave over the yeshiva to his son, the other side was the Steins being supported by Levin, Keller, Glustein, Howowitz, Levitansky, Eisenberger, Goldberg and behind the scenes was Ausband who up until recently was unknown to the public that he was involved (we will get back to this in a moment) they all said that Gifter has no clue how to run a yeshiva we can do a much better job so goodbye Gifter we are running the place! I am not here to explain the back and forth between the 2 sides, that we will leave for the bais din. But let me ask you a question did any of you ever hear of such a thing that if you don’t like the way the owner of a company is running his company you can tell him to leave! As far as I know the employee quits his job and opens his own company if he is unhappy? But then the Ribono Shel Olam throws in a fork into this mess and the Stein’s can’t run the yeshiva anymore and the true colors start coming out, this is not a fight against Gifter for the Stein’s, each and every person who is fighting is fighting his own battle just the common enemy at this point is: "they all have to get rid of Gifter!" As you now understand that Ausband and Goldberg were never interested in the Steins they think that the yeshiva belongs to them just they themselves can’t get rid of Gifter so they team up with the others.</div><div style="text-indent: 0.5in;">Now let’s understand why Ausband until now has been very quiet to the outside world. I say outside world because Rabbi Dovid Feinstein Shlita said that before he came out with his pesak regarding Telz, Ausband didn’t stop bothering the bais din that they should not put out a pesak for Gifter's. Let’s go back in time a little bit and explain the Ausband Gifter relationship. Those of you who remember and listened to the levaya of Rabbi Mordechai Gifter zt”l which was held in Darchei Torah might remember that when Ausband got up to speak he keep saying “i have to ask Mechilah” WHY? What did he do that such a so called “close talmid” would keep saying by his rebbe’s levaya that “i have to ask mechila” but never end up asking it? To answer this we have to explain how Telshe Alumni Yeshiva came about.<br />
Telshe Alumni started out first in Westfield NJ, when Rabbi Mordechai Gifter zt”l sent his son in-law and talmid to open a yeshiva but due to vicious anti-Semitism, the yeshiva had to move it was then that their Rebbe said <span style="background-color: blue; color: blue;"><span style="background-color: white;">“UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCE ARE YOU TO MOVE TO RIVERDALE”</span></span> and when Ausband came and said they can’t find anywhere to go Rav Gifter said “rent a place upstate and everything will work out <span style="color: blue;">"BUT DON’T GO TO RIVERDALE”</span>. As history has it the yeshiva went to Riverdale and Rav Gifter’s son in-law left the yeshiva. This is the so called close talmid of Rav Gifter zt”l. </div><div style="text-indent: 0.5in;">So my friends I ask you is this the type of people we want educating the leaders of the next generation? <b style="color: red;"><span style="font-size: large;">Do we want our children to learn not to listen to their rebbe?</span></b></div>Unknownnoreply@blogger.com5tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6361665806978266714.post-45547221225109707032010-08-22T16:35:00.000-04:002010-08-22T18:36:11.199-04:00A close friend of Rav Yankel Horowitz says<span xmlns=""></span><br />
<h4><span xmlns="">As you all saw this past week in the yated that my good friend rav yankel was visiting telz Cleveland (some said it was to tell the new hanhala the proper way telzers daven on rosh hashanah) but after speaking with him he said the following. <br />
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</span></div><div style="margin-left: 36pt;"><span xmlns=""><i>I really had no interest in going to telz or being involved in any which way with what is going on but Rabbi Levin from Chicago begged of me to come to show the world... (I don't know what but they paid my ticket) he promised me that I would be able to speak from the aron kodesh something that every telzer wishes they could do because only special people get to speak from in front of the aron kodesh everyone else speaks from one of the side or back rooms. When I was in Cleveland I was invited to make the 45 minute trip to visit Rav Chaim Stein who should have a refuah shlaima. As some of you may have heard Rav Chaim has been getting better and was responding to people. I had my hopes high that he would say or respond to me. When I walked into the room I realized what I heard was far from the truth (like as far as the new hanhala has the right to run the yeshiva). I saw in front of me a man who R"L is called a vegetable he has a trek in his throat and is hooked up to a respirator. I can't understand how the family is able to go around and say he is responding..<br />
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<span xmlns="">Signing off a close friend of Rav Horowitz who can't understand how people changed so much from when their rabbim were alive and well or maybe they had it inside of them all this time</span><br />
<span xmlns=""></span>Unknownnoreply@blogger.com4tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6361665806978266714.post-1604021981332837772010-06-24T22:18:00.000-04:002010-06-24T00:19:51.012-04:00From The Mail Box<span xmlns=""></span><br />
<span xmlns="">Now that more and more telzers are leaving telz does anyone know when Sholom Shapiro and Dovid Goldberg is leaving? Why don't they just close up shop? Let BMG come and open a yeshiva in Cleveland and show the Telzer how to run a yeshiva. There are more Telzers in Lakewood then in Telz. <br />
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<span xmlns="">Chas Vesholom should we say this but as more telzers move to Lakewood the Lakewooders will move to Cleveland to get away from them. I'm sure when Rav Makiel Kotler was in Telz a couple weeks ago he was so impress with the famous Telzer Yeshiva when they brought the so call Mechinah to help the 11 bochurim that are left in that big bais medrash so he can say his shumuz after davening. All former Talmidim would like to thank the Hanhala's of the Yeshiva and Board Member's for ruining the yeshiva with leadership of gavah. Will the last one who leave's the building turn out the lights!<br />
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<span xmlns="">Oh and by the way breaking news Yossi Sova who was a so called 9<sup>th</sup> grade rebbe is moving to Monsey! We would like to wish him much success in all of his endeavors and we pray that he will not act with his new bosses the way he acted with his old one.</span><br />
<span xmlns=""></span>Unknownnoreply@blogger.com8tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6361665806978266714.post-31660474057913037832010-05-28T12:11:00.006-04:002010-05-28T12:43:47.967-04:00From the Mail Box<span xmlns=""></span><br />
<span xmlns="">Dear members of Klal Yisroel and Telz Hanhala, <br />
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<span xmlns="">We are in the mists of a crisis! The Rosh Yeshiva Rav Chaim Stein is critically ill! For all those who don't know what is happening I will explain on Shabbos May 8<sup>th</sup>, Rav Chaim fell off his bed being that he is in his 90s he was taken to his doctor to make sure everything was ok. The doctor did a full check up and could not find anything wrong. On Tuesday May 11<sup>th</sup> Rav Chaim went unconscious, he was rushed to the hospital next to his home and went under numerous test to figure out why. As the hours passed they performed a cat-scan and discovered bleeding in the brain. He was then rushed to down town Cleveland to have emergency surgery performed which took place 12 hours later due to complications with his medications. As of this letter Rav Chaim has not woken up since Tuesday May 11<sup>th</sup>.<br />
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<span xmlns="">Having said the above can someone please explain why in the world would a yeshiva give an "off shabbos" if their Rosh Yeshiva is laying deathly ill in the hospital? I understand that the new telz hanhala has already appointed a new rosh yeshiva in his stead but a little mesiras nefesh would be in proper place to push off the "off shabbos" as a zechus for Rav Chaim its been only 2 weeks!<br />
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<div style="text-align: right;"><span xmlns="">A Talmid</span></div><span xmlns=""></span>Unknownnoreply@blogger.com4tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6361665806978266714.post-44239283745024105272010-05-27T01:22:00.003-04:002010-05-28T01:33:28.750-04:00Chutzpah Has No Bounds!<div style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-size: small;">We all wish Rav Chaim a refuah shelaimah</span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-size: small;"><br />
</span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-size: small;">But it now appears that the present powers to be can't wait for "what happens"!</span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-size: small;"><br />
</span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-size: small;">For they now have a new plan, that calls for the appointing of Rav Levine, the chicago Rosh Yeshiva as also Rosh Yeshiva of Cleveland. </span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-size: small;"><br />
</span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-size: small;">I guess a mazel tov is in order! </span></div><br />
<div style="color: red; font-family: "Trebuchet MS",sans-serif; text-align: center;"><span style="font-size: x-large;">WOW!! </span></div><div style="color: red; font-family: "Trebuchet MS",sans-serif; text-align: center;"><br />
</div><div style="color: red; font-family: "Trebuchet MS",sans-serif; text-align: center;"><span style="font-size: x-large;">CHUTZPAH HAS NO BOUNDS!!</span> </div><div style="font-family: "Trebuchet MS",sans-serif; text-align: center;"><br />
</div><div style="font-family: "Trebuchet MS",sans-serif; text-align: center;"><span style="color: red; font-size: x-large;">They already have Rav Chaim in the ground!!!</span></div>Unknownnoreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6361665806978266714.post-50387288150516774642010-05-11T12:18:00.001-04:002010-05-11T14:23:31.030-04:00R' Chiam Stein rushed to hospitalPlease take a moment from your day and be Mispallel for R' Chaim Stein, who was rushed to the hospital today<br />
he is unconscious, and has bleeding in his brain after falling this past shabbos. His name is Chaim Yaakov ben Chasia Miriam.Unknownnoreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6361665806978266714.post-30001102157438072232010-05-08T17:21:00.000-04:002010-05-09T01:23:05.046-04:00What is your connection to telz?<span xmlns=""></span><br />
<span xmlns="">After months of research we have finally discovered the truth about what is going on in Telz. <br />
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<span xmlns="">We would like to ask forgiveness from the current hanhala for blaming them why there are only 11 bodies in the bais medrash this zman. <br />
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<span xmlns="">We have finally figured out they are not at fault. <br />
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<span xmlns="">We have taken the time to contact hundreds of telz alumni (Thanks R' Zev Poss for letting us get the list) to find out what they liked about telz and what do they feel they are missing out from today? <br />
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<span xmlns=""><span style="color: #943634;"><b>Would you believe that 98% said the same thing! <br />
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<span xmlns="">The main response was, they feel that the only connection to telz is "Perleys Chulent" and since today perley is retired and is not making the chulent they have no connection to telz and don't talk about sending children to telz. <br />
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<span xmlns="">And for your information the remaining 2% response was, the Liver shabbos day and the famous "telz Sandwiches" by the shabbos day seudah<br />
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<span xmlns="">So as you see it has nothing to do with who is running telz it has to do with who is making the food</span><br />
<span xmlns=""></span>Unknownnoreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6361665806978266714.post-24447706809871987662010-04-30T09:32:00.000-04:002010-04-30T18:31:56.872-04:00The Fighting In The New Hanhala Continues!<span xmlns=""></span><br />
<span xmlns="">We would like to wish a mazel tov to Rabbi Avrohom Notis the Son In-Law of Harav Dovid Barkin zt"l who is the Son In-Law of Harav Eli Meir Bloch zt"l the founder of Telz Yeshiva in America on the birth of a Daughter.<br />
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<span xmlns="">The new policy of the hanhala is that nothing can be done without a vote of the entire hanhala. This policy was put into act to counter act the policy from when Rav Eli Meir Bloch zt"l started the yeshiva till Rav Mordechai Gifter zt"l was niftar "it was a one man show, the hanhala was just an advisory board." The problem is R' Shalom Shapiro seems to have promoted himself above and beyond the rest of the hanhala. This was found out after the new psak halacha came out "Not to give an aliya to Rabbi Notis when his wife came to davening"!!! (As is the custom, after a lady has a baby the first time she leaves her house should be to daven on a day that the Torah is read and the husband should get an aliya when she is there.)<br />
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<span xmlns="">Let's take a step back and forget the fight that's going on in Telz. Have they all forgotten who the founder of Telz Cleveland, Chicago was? R' Shapiro how do you have no feelings to a Yesoma who was sitting in the Ladies section? Have you forgotten her father and grandfather?<br />
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<span xmlns="">Let this be a warning to all those on the Telshe Campus "the big benefactor who gave money to R' Chaim Stein from Chicago is in the middle of a Federal Investigation and is liquidating all of his nursing homes" we don't know the ways of G-D but when you cause pain to orphans and widows watch out.<br />
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<span xmlns="">On a personal note to the big benefactor from Chicago maybe you should have listened to Rabbi Naiman instead of R' Chaim Dov Keller you may have been in a different situation today.</span><br />
<span xmlns=""></span>Unknownnoreply@blogger.com3tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6361665806978266714.post-21330363961339853632010-04-21T16:55:00.000-04:002010-04-21T19:56:04.438-04:00New Fight In Telz Chicago - Chicago has had enough with TelzInside sources have said over that the Kellers and Levins are having it out if they should still be involved in the telz cleveland fight. It seems said the insider that the involvement of telz chicagos roshei yeshiva is having a very bad affect on the day to day money in the yeshiva. In other words people are stopping to give them money due to the fact that they are involved in whats going on in cleveland.<br />
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we will keep you posted stay tuned.Unknownnoreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6361665806978266714.post-83406908573798751382010-04-18T17:33:00.003-04:002010-04-21T19:41:04.203-04:00R' Chaim Stein opens new kollel or better said is trying...A little history is called for. For all those that read the past posts would notice we have spoken about telz round 3 ww3. Lets go back and tell you about round 1 and how its coming out again in 2010.<br />
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For all those of you that know a little of telz history what you will read today will not be a surprise.<br />
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What some of you do not know is that r' chaim stein who is not related at all to the telz family tried very hard when he was in telz to marry into the telz family (told over from Reb. Sorutzkin to one of her grandchildren) it has been since than that r' chaim stein has been trying to take over the yeshiva.<br />
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Its been over 30 years since the famous shmus that rav gifter gave a month and half after rav b sorutzkin was niftar. Rav gifter came back from e"y to set things up in Cleveland so he can go back to e"y to telz stone. In the shmues he says that he asked people what changes to make in the yeshiva and they all gave him different ideas but he is not listening to them and gives the younger generation to start giving the shurim. He goes on further to say that since he can't run the yeshiva from e"y on a daily basis as rosh hayeshiva he puts r' chaim stein in charge but stresses that he has to work with the rest of the hanhala and he has no right to work by himself.<br />
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A few months later after letters came from Cleveland to rav gifter in telz stone stating that r' chaim stein and r' aizik ausband are fighting to run the yeshiva and the kollel is leaving rav gifter went to speak to Rav Sach and Rav Kanievsky about what to do.<br />
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They both told him he must close the yeshiva in telz stone and go back to Cleveland to save the yeshiva from destruction. It was after rav gifter came back that numerous telz alumni from that time said over that rav gifter ran the yeshiva single handily and had to put up with r' chaim stein doing lots of things that...<br />
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Today we find out that history is repeating itself, r' chaim stein is trying once again to take over the yeshiva from the gifters. But the surprises are not short of coming information keeps coming in about a new kollel that r' chaim stein is opening this coming elul. But not everything goes so smooth with this new hanhala although they all have the same goal of getting ride of gifter each one of them is fight their own fight to run the yeshiva. r' goldberg told r' chaim stein that the hanhala has to decide who comes to the kollel but r' chaim stein said his grandchildren will decide who will come...<br />
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And the fighting in the hanhala continues and the lock on the cage has cracked and is about to burst<br />
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Stay tuned for more details about this new kollel and the fighting in the new hanhala<br />
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(If anyone knows any info about who is coming to this kollel please email <a href="mailto:newkollel@gmail.com">newkollel@gmail.com</a>)Unknownnoreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6361665806978266714.post-46049219566538374442010-04-08T01:39:00.001-04:002010-04-08T01:42:35.059-04:00It’s a secret! Or is it?<span xmlns=""></span><br />
<span xmlns="">Thanks to the many leaks in the new administration at Telshe it did not take long until the fighting that everyone said would happen started! Aaron Levitansky has given <span style="font-size: large;"><i><b>himself</b></i></span> a salary raise complained Dovid Greenwald, what for? going to new York for the din torah he deserves a raise? he does not do any work I am the only one who does something around here! All day he is giving lectures around the United States or he is with his shul in Cleveland Heights he is never around to be with the High School Boys! If he would be here there would not be a din torah for him to go to! (he would have been on gifters side of this whole mess)<br />
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<span xmlns="">And would you believe the response the Administration gave? Please keep this very quite! Yes we know it's a problem but we first need to win the din torah and then we can send him away. But if the bais din sees that we agree to the problems that gifter has all the efforts that we put into this din torah the fasting and lies we had levitansky make up and tell the toan and dayonim we will never win. So please for the sake of your job and us winning this din torah please keep this very quite.</span><br />
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<span xmlns="">World War 3 (telz round 3) has begun! For now it's in a cage locked up, but it's getting bigger and bigger and it's about to break loose.<br />
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<span xmlns="">Stay tuned for more details of the fighting in the new administration!</span><br />
<span xmlns=""></span>Unknownnoreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6361665806978266714.post-21141086207625310822010-04-06T01:00:00.000-04:002010-04-06T01:00:02.176-04:00Is Dovid Goldberg losing control?<span xmlns=""><p>It has come to our attention that Mosdos Ohr HaTorah one of the day schools in Cleveland have fired a long standing rebbe and talmid of Telshe Yeshiva? After doing some digging we have uncovered from sources by the meeting that the OK to fire the rebbe was given by Dovid Goldberg who has the final say in the entire goings on in the school!<br /></p><p>We have a few questions that maybe someone can answer:<br /></p><ol><li>Aren't you busy enough with the goings on in Telshe and Yavne Semenary (the school that fell apart after they sent Rabbi Nustat away because he got to power full and for some reason Mrs. Ausband gave over to Goldberg instead of her son) to be busy with the day school?<br /></li><li>Don't you think that this rebbe at least deserves some sort of job (like a resource room rebbe) instead of just leaving him no way to put bread on the table?<br /></li><li>Instead of demoting him you fire him! How's he supposed to get a job in a different school?<br /></li><li><div>Just one final question: who did you learn to be so cruel from?<br /></div><ul><li>When you learnt in Telz Chicago (For sure not from Rav Shmezcher!)<br /></li></ul><ul><li>Maybe from your brother in-law in Riverdale?<br /></li></ul><ul><li>Or maybe from the telzer in Montreal?<br /></li></ul><ul><li>Or maybe from the telzers you associate yourself with on the telshe campus?<br /></li></ul><ul><li>Or all of the above?<br /></li></ul></li></ol></span><span xmlns=""><p>Wishing all are readers a good summer, and daven that all of klal yisroel should have food to put on the table.</p></span>Unknownnoreply@blogger.com10tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6361665806978266714.post-76176499088996345772010-04-01T00:59:00.000-04:002010-04-01T01:02:33.472-04:00Is He Jewish?This Pasach we found out that Dovid Greenwald is not a Kohen but a Levi, when it comes shevous we will find out he is not a Levi but a Yisroel, by Rosh Hashona we will find out he is not even Jewish!!!Unknownnoreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6361665806978266714.post-75327487460371219112010-03-31T00:55:00.000-04:002010-04-01T00:56:36.571-04:00Are you a Kohen, Levi, Yisroel , Jewish?Now that Dovid greenwald got a psak from reb Dovid Feinstien that he is not a kohen - why does he not ask his telzer gedolim to over throw his psak and then he can come back a kohen?Unknownnoreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6361665806978266714.post-26942451069521971242010-03-27T20:20:00.000-04:002010-03-28T22:24:22.446-04:00Telz Chicago Lies Again<span style="font-family: times new roman;font-family:arial;font-size:100%;color:black;" ><div style=";font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:10pt;color:black;">Some of are readers have received an email from Yitzchok Levin the son of Avrohom Chaim Levin the Rosh Yeshiva of Telz Chicago. In his email he goes on to say that <span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">"</span><span style=";color:black;" ><span style=""><span style="" lang="0"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">we at Telshe are not associated in any way with this campaign"</span> unfortunately </span></span></span>the Rosh Yeshiva in Telz Chicago <span><span style=";color:black;" >(Levin & Keller) </span></span>have very much to do with this campaign of machlokes. How can anyone in their right mind say that they are not part of this campaign? Lets forget about all the letters they signed and had Yitzchok Levin send out! <span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">If you show up to the din torah and are the main person speaking that does not sound like you are not involved!</span>
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<br />Below is the email that was sent out.
<br /><span style=""><span style="" lang="0">Chag Kosher Vesomeach
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<br />We Daven that this din torah should be over very quickly and that both sides should listen to what the dayonim say
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<br />P.S. Yitzchok Levin the email you sent out was sent to more then one fake email address next time be more careful.
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<br />-----Original Message-----
<br />From: Yitzchok Levin <<a href="mailto:yzlevin@telshe.edu" target="_blank">yzlevin@telshe.edu</a>>
<br />To: Telshe@Telshe.edu
<br />Sent: Fri, Mar 26, 2010 1:44 pm
<br />Subject: Please note
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<br /><div> <div><span style=""><span style="">One of the problems of our modern digital age is that twisted persons can adopt the name of a legitimate organization as they attempt to influence others with false and derogatory information. It is indeed reprehensible and regrettable that such an individual seeks to seed <i>machlokes</i> and hatred and is using the name of Telshe Yeshiva<span> Chicago</span> to cover his malicious actions.</span><span lang="0">
<br /></span></span></div> <div><span style=""><span style="" lang="0">Needless to say, we at Telshe are not associated in any way with this campaign and condemn it in the strongest possible terms.</span><span style="" lang="0">
<br /></span></span></div> </div></div></span> <div style="font-family: times new roman;"><span style=";font-size:100%;" ><span style="" lang="0">We implore you to delete those emails and to ignore them. </span><span style="" lang="0">
<br /></span></span></div> <div style="font-family: times new roman;"><span style=";font-size:100%;" ><span style="" lang="0">We pray for the day that sanity and <i>shalom</i> will reign supreme.</span><span style="" lang="0">
<br /></span></span></div> <div><span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:85%;" ><span style=";font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:100%;" lang="0" ><span style="font-family: times new roman;">Wishing you a Chag Kosher Vesomeach,</span>
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<br /></span></span></div> <div> </div> <div dir="ltr" align="left"><span style=";font-family:Brush Dom Regular;font-size:130%;" ><strong></strong></span> </div> <div dir="ltr" align="left"><strong><span style="font-size:130%;">Telshe Yeshiva<span> Chicago</span></span></strong><span lang="0" style="font-size:85%;">
<br /><strong>3535 W. Foster</strong></span></div> <div dir="ltr" align="left"><span lang="0" style="font-size:85%;"><strong>Chicago, IL 60625
<br />(773) 463-7738</strong></span></div>Unknownnoreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6361665806978266714.post-22812831338568922992010-03-22T01:45:00.000-04:002010-03-22T01:45:00.525-04:00From the mailbag:<dl class="" id="comments-block"><dt class="comment-author anon-comment-icon" id="c1640666161359063533">Talmid Of Rav Gifter ZT"L said... </dt><dd class="comment-body"> <p>I heard that the dayan B"H made those ganovim start paying the rebitzin of Harav Hagoan Rav Gifter ZT"L the one that if not for him the yeshiva would have closed down after Harav Hagoan Rav Sorotzkin ZT"L was niftar. She lost her pay check because of her husbands great student the one and only Avrohom Ausband who for some reason has forgotten who got him where he is today. It was Avrohom Ausbands students who has caused much grief to his rebbes wife for when they came they throw eggs at her house and car and damaged her house.<br /><br />If anyone can please respond if they know if they are listening to the dayonim or if this is one big joke all over again</p> </dd><dd class="comment-footer"> <span class="comment-timestamp"> <a href="http://rischandioraysa1.blogspot.com/2010/03/din-torah-update_18.html?showComment=1269229273770#c1640666161359063533" title="comment permalink"> March 21, 2010 8:41 PM </a> <span class="item-control blog-admin pid-113953542"> <a href="delete-comment.g?blogID=6361665806978266714&postID=1640666161359063533" title="Delete Comment"> <img src="img/icon_delete13.gif" /></a></span></span></dd></dl><a href="http://rischandioraysa1.blogspot.com/2010/03/din-torah-update_18.html">http://rischandioraysa1.blogspot.com/2010/03/din-torah-update_18.html</a>Unknownnoreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6361665806978266714.post-40380525052981267972010-03-19T00:49:00.000-04:002010-03-19T00:59:44.895-04:00Din Torah UpdateWe would like to thank the all those that were involved that made this din torah actually start and we only say start because as of this posting the information that was received was it was 2 days of absolutely wasted time!<br /><br />We are in middle of getting detailed information of what was said during the 2 days.<br /><br />Anyone who has information is asked to please leave a comment<br /><br />As of now the next date for the din torah is some time during Iyyar<br /><br />More details to follow<br /><br /><br />Stay tuned for more info<span style="text-decoration: underline;"><br /></span>Unknownnoreply@blogger.com1